Flash Vs Flex – UPDATE
by Carlos Pinho, June 11th, 2007
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=== UTPDATE===

Mny tnx for yr comments. After read them, i got one more question. Do you think that AS3 arrived and it will be here for long time, or it will happen the same as happened with AS1 and AS2? As because from AS1 to AS2, there weren’t so many problems as now using the AS3, as the syntax is completely different. The jump was bigger. 

=== UPDATE===

Hi,

A few time ago, i’ve wrote a post asking for your opinion about which is the best program to work. After some opinions, we could understand that flash is better for designers and to build nice layouts, in the other hand flex, is good to make applications, as it faster to do it than in flash. My personal opinion is that we still to read and try more tutorials to star working with flex… i’m getting mad…

Now with the release of CS3, i’ve a question, is adobe already splitting their customers with the new available components? As on flash 8, there were available lots of components as datagrid, accordion, scrollpane, scroller and so on so on, but on Flash CS3, no. What do you think about it?

Brgds,

CP

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  1. ashurbunipal Says:
    June 6th, 2007 at 12:56 pm

    As a longtime flash designer/developer I am disappointed in the development of flash. While it’s great that all adobe apps can talk/interact seamlessly with each other(great for workflow) the only really innovative things flash has introduced over the past 3 years is video(great for youtube but as a designer?). Don’t even get me started on having to relearn a new version of actionscript every year. Flex is really cool and is a great strategy to capture more programmers but it looks like adobe is more focused on the programming end of flash than the design end (it looks like a good strategy). I would venture to guess that developing flash more for designers would hurt the illustrator product (flash still doesn’t support underlined text!!!). As a designer/drawer/programmer I long for an light weight 3-d app.

  2. Todd Says:
    June 6th, 2007 at 2:07 pm

    I have straddled the line between designer and developer, and I agree with some of the pundits out there that comparing Flash to Flex is like comparing the proverbial apples to oranges:

    Sometimes you want an apple. Sometimes an orange. And sometimes a bowl of fruit salad hits the spot.

    While I understand ashurbunipal’s gripe with learning a new version of Actionscript every year, I have to say I’m not too sympathetic, mostly because I think those days are behind us.

    Flash WAS basically design software until the birth of ActionScript. Problem with any type of development language is: once you give them a little, they want more. The evolutions of ActionScript are not driven my Adobe’s desire to develop new frameworks (no small feat). but because users push the envelope and cry out for more capability.

    So the designers had to learn AS1. Now AS1 did some things in a very rudimentary way. The users wanted more, so AS2 came about. Sort of a kluge attempt at a “real” language without forcing the AS1 users to learn a totally new version.

    People did great with AS2 but again pushed for more, which broke out of the realms of an “almost-language” — the kluge could no longer support the needs.

    So AS3 came about and was (re)designed from the ground up to be a REAL language. So now we all had to (re)learn how to do things (classes, oop, strong stat typing).

    But the beauty in going through that pain is now that all future releases of AS will be built on that solid, STABLE (read: won’t have to relearn how to tie your shoes, just what the new shoes can do for you) foundation. It’ll only be learning how to use the NEW FEATURES, not relearning how to do everything like it has been up to now.

    Also, remember that all the Flash folks are on the 8th version of Flash, where Flex is only really on its second-and-a-half iteration (1.5 and 2 and the 3 beta soon). It takes a while for the community to develop GOOD documentation, tutorials, get started guides, libraries of code/design examples, themes, etc.

  3. Josh Says:
    June 6th, 2007 at 11:37 pm

    There have been three versions of ActionScript in over seven years (since Flash 5 in 2000). That’s more than two years between languages. AS3 is based on the newest ECMAScript/JavaScript standard, which is getting finalized as we speak. It will be many years before a new ECMAScript standard comes along, so rest assured that AS3 is here to stay.

    Of course, it’s not like the change from (proper) AS2 to AS3 was as big as the change from AS1 to AS2. No, I’m not kidding. I think the biggest problem is that many people used a mix of AS1 and AS2 because AS2 was more backwards compatible, and they’re now required to make a huge jump from quasi-AS1 to AS3.

  4. Nuno Rosa Says:
    June 11th, 2007 at 1:43 pm

    Josh answered those question in the last comment.
    Now days actionscript is a real development language and his here to stay.

    I disagree with the jump being bigger, the syntax may differ but not a lot of concepts being added to the top.
    In AS1->AS2 the OOP concept is a big huge step.

    I think the problem, at least for me, was ignoring the OOP paradigm for a long time and now that i’m getting the hang of it the syntax has changed.

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